godwin's law xkcd

Posted by 6 days ago. LAME. Why, exactly?

What was that faith that was abused? The only Godwin’s Law exception that I’m aware of is the “XKCD Defense,” when you’re actually talking about history. Really, we’re supposed to try to ignore one of the biggest events of the 20th century in all discussions?

Required fields are marked *, interested in or enthusiastic for the use and development of aircraft (Oxford English Dictionary). Neville Chamberlain told the British people: Accept the Nazis. Why, exactly?”.

Apologies if I am coming across as aggressive or harsh. The point of Godwins law is deeply serious as are your quotes. Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies) is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazism or Hitlerapproaches 1"— that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism. Hot New Top Rising. Godwin’s law. Advanced features of this website require that you enable JavaScript in your browser. Now here’s what Washington Post blogger Alexandra Petri wrote about that segment of the speech: We even got some Nazi analogies, just proving that Godwin’s Law holds for filibusters as for online discussion. Your second paragraph also seems to have nothing to do with what Cruz said. "My uninformed (but not uneducated) guess is that the original archive depended on a bespoke and probably very spaghetti environment, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License, The Jarrow ‘bombardment’, 19 February 1938, Come friendly bombs and fall on Stonehenge, Phantom airships, mystery aeroplanes, and other panics, Post-blogging the 1918 mystery aeroplanes. Obamacare is an extension of a principle “begun” by Otto von Bismarck. Good point. To me the the point of your post appears to be that Godwins law is being abused. You know, not once in my entire time as a history student have I been given advice on how to deal with Godwin's Law. Your email address will not be published. After he seeded Godwin's Law within various BBS threads, it caught on with ease, even morphing into different versions of the same basic idea, much like … That is the POINT of Godwins law. back to top. For example, “Hitler loved his German Shepard Blondi, not unlike how the president loves his Portuguese Water dogs. Curiously we are always being reminded that in order not to repeat the same mistakes, we must always remember the war and the hideous NAZI regime and learn lessons from it, but then we are chastised when we do. Its not meant that way. Seitz’s Law: crappy writers will name-check contemporary pseudo-Laws in an effort to seem not-clueless. Because 99% of the time on the internet, the online conversation would be more interesting and more informative without Nazis being involved. Brett Holman • 14 May 2007 • Leave a reply. Even then they would have made television. Let’s appease them. Hot. Its a cheap form for debate. It seems Godwin’s Law is better named Godwin’s Defence, the trump card to shut down any conversation pointing to parallels, in order to escape due critique. Godwin’s Law states: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1. Most people simply think Godwin’s law means something like: “Referencing Hitler or the Nazis makes you less credible and voids your argument.”.
Les Cargill Sep 30 2013 at 8:38am . This XKCD comic is where I first learned about Godwin's Law. card classic compact. There are likely thousands of analogies one could make about Nazis and Hitler, which, if taken literally, are not “offensive”.

Top. Yes good call by David, Godwin’s Law is more fun than universal and there are times when mentioning World War II make perfect sense. Basically a variant on the good old strawman or if you prefer the Chewbacca defense. Buy my book The Next War in the Air: Britain's Fear of the Bomber, 1908-1941 (Ashgate, 2014; Routledge, 2017) in hardcover, paperback or ebook format. Chamberlain was the one who declared war on Germany after the invasion of Poland. We saw this recently in the case of the junior U.S. I love that message boards have been around long enough to generate such hilarious and depressing observations on human behavior and discourse.

I’m saying that I misunderstood Godwin’s law to mean something more general, and I think most other people do too. Referencing Hitler or the Nazis makes you less credible and voids your argument. Surely his goal was the containment of German power in Europe, but without another catastrophic war. That behavior by Chamberlain and Daladier, to give in to Hitler, made the German army re-think its hostility to him; that maybe Hitler wouldn’t be the disaster they feared after all. Another longstanding internet tradition is posting comments without reading the original post, after having scanned its text for keywords that trigger a reaction. In its October 2007 issue and … @Duncan Earley, Why? I love that message boards have been around long enough to generate such hilarious and depressing observations on human behavior and discourse. Or, “like most Nazis, Tea Party proponents love their mothers”. Let's look back at some memorable moments and interesting insights from last year. Yes, they will dominate the continent of Europe, but that is not our problem. A quote: “It fell to Neville Chamberlain in one of the supreme crises of the world to be contradicted by events, to be disappointed in his hopes, and to be deceived and cheated by a wicked man. So whom exactly did Cruz compare to Hitler? In older internet forums its considered end of thread and the person who invoked the Nazis is seen to have lost the argument as they had to resort to the lowest comparison. Duncan Earley: The quote from Cruz in the post does not contain the word “someone”, so I’ve no idea what your first paragraph is supposed to mean. The day after reading about Niniane’s brush with Godwin’s Law ... For good measure, here’s an xkcd comic about Godwin’s Law. Perhaps the next generation’s Godwin’s Law will be Osama Bin Laden and 9/11 comparisons. “Really, we’re supposed to try to ignore one of the biggest events of the 20th century in all discussions? I refuse to argue with you until you show evidence that you have read my post carefully. Rising. Of course, the comparison Cruz was trying to make was with Neville Chamberlain, not Hitler. The Senator invoked giving up against the Nazis as an indirect comparison to giving up against Obamacare. I do question Ted Cruz’s statement about Chamberlain, incidentally: Neville Chamberlain told the British people: Accept the Nazis.
("Regarding Mussolini" from xkcd.) My point is: what is the point of ever bringing up Nazis in any political analogy, it just smells. It’s a lot more destructive of discussion than the occassional use of Nazis when making a point. Permissions beyond the scope of this license may be available at https://airminded.org/copyright/. Or, “Brooklyn has become a home for many microbreweries, reminding one of some of the smaller “beer houses” in Nazi Germany”. All he did was use a number of historical incidents of defeatism and show that in each case the defeatism was unjustified. Cruz said “someone” when he should of said “someone or something”.

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